Dumbo’s Suicide
February 19th, 2007 by Syd
Assault Rifles For Hunters?
As I write this, I’m hunting coyotes in southeastern Wyoming with Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, Greg Dennison, who is senior research engineer for Remington, and several writers. We’re testing Remington’s brand new .17 cal Spitfire bullet on coyotes.
I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.
I call them “assault” rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I’m a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I’ll go so far as to call them “terrorist” rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are “tackdrivers.”
Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don’t need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I’ve always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don’t use assault rifles. We’ve always been proud of our “sporting firearms.”
This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don’t need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let’s divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the praries and woods. Jim Zumbo, Outdoor Life Blog
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a long time. The sh*tstorm he stirred up in the blogosphere is truly amazing, not unjustified, but remarkable in its ferocity. The CEO of Remington is already out, on a Sunday, announcing that Zumbo is toast. Makes you wonder if Zumbo has been living in a cave or something. And it was so unnecessary. Even if he personally doesn’t like “black rifles” how could he not know that calling their owners “terrorists” would be professional suicide? It’s one of those incomprehensible exercises in self-destruction usually reserved for Democratic presidential candidates.
There’s not a lot that I can add to this sad episode that hasn’t been said better and more vehemently by other bloggers. If you want to read their commentary, here are some links: Blogonomicon, View from the Porch, Ninth Stage, The Smallest Minority, A Keyboard and a .45, PawPaw’s House, Xavier, The War on Guns and probably a thousand others.
Zumbo called for a ban on AR and AK type rifles and called their users terrorists. There’s really not much coming back from that. Thousands upon thousands of internet savvy gun users went up in arms and screamed for his head. His sponsors — Remington, Mossy Oak, Gerber, Outdoor Life, The NRA and others — immediately tossed him into the ash can.
This really speaks to me of the way the Internet changes things. Honestly, I had never heard of Zumbo before. I’m not much of hunter. I think I read a copy of Outdoor Life several years ago while sitting in a doctor’s waiting room. It’s not a publication I read regularly. There are quite a few gun writers who I have read regularly for many years, but I can’t recall ever reading anything memorable by Zumbo. But he posts this unfortunate article on a blog and he’s suddenly the hottest issue in gun rights. Even the Brady Campaign picked up his screed. There are so many negative comments on the blog page that it took nearly a minute for my browser to load it, and I have 4 megabit broadband. That’s a lot of comments. In the old days, you really had to work at letting the world know how stupid you are. Now, thanks to Internet, you can let the whole universe know in about fifteen seconds. Zumbo is an old guy and probably had no idea how far his words would travel.
Just think how effective we could be if we focused this level of internet energy on issues like defeating bad legislation and gun-grabbing politicians. Carolyn McCarthy has already reintroduced the Assault Weapons Ban as H.R. 1022. Let’s channel some of this rage in that direction where it will count for something.
Perhaps, this is a cautionary tale for all of us bloggers: when you’re sitting there in an alcoholic haze, be careful what you blog. The ox you gore may be your own.
A day later…
Motivations fascinate me. I’m always trying to figure out why people do what they do, even though it’s often an impossible task. In this case, why did Zumbo gratuitously pick a fight with a large segment of the gun owning public? I bet he’s wishing he would have cleaned a gun or something instead of turning on his computer Saturday and writing his little blast against black rifle fans. That little string of words cost him a lot — lucrative sponsorships that I would give my eye teeth to get. The only thing I can come to in terms of an explanation is that he just didn’t know. He wasn’t aware of the issues and the kind of response his screed would trigger. I doubt that he would have posted that piece if he had any inkling of the consequences for him. How could this be?
I believe that some of it is generational. Had I come home with an AR or AK when my father was living, I am sure that the first question would be, “What in the hell do you need that thing for? Did you join the Army?” My dad was a life-long hunter, a police officer for a while, and carried a pistol for personal protection later in life. He was very pro-gun. He was a WWII vet and the last thing he wanted to fool with was a military rifle. He’d done his time with those and they held no fascination for him. Zumbo may be a bit younger than my dad, but he’s closer to that generation than to mine. I can tell you that those guys love their deer rifles and bird guns, and if they have a handgun it’s often a revolver, but the military stuff just doesn’t compute with them. I will also say that for these guys, to see someone take in after a whitetail or a bighorn sheep with an AK or an AR is distasteful to them. There’s just something wrong about that for them. It doesn’t mean they want to repeal the Second Amendment; it’s just a matter of style and aesthetics.
But Zumbo wasn’t just a regular Bubba stocking his freezer with venison; he was a gun writer for a major magazine, and it remains incomprehensible to me how he could have lived in this country for the last three-quarters of a century and not be tuned into the gun rights struggle we have been fighting. Two possibilities exist at this juncture: (1) that he is so deeply embedded in the sportsman hunter thing that he really didn’t know, or (2) he is tired of working and wanted to pick a fight. While I don’t know for a certainty, I lean toward the first option, that he really had no idea of the trouble he was about to make for himself.
What this suggests to me is that there is a large segment of the gun owning public that we aren’t reaching. When they hear “gun control” they think Glocks in the ghetto. They don’t make the connection that Teddy Kennedy is pounding the podium in the Senate trying to ban the ammunition for their deer rifles. We have some work to do. This isn’t meant to excuse Zumbo for the things he said. I think they were desperately wrong and showed a level of ignorance that cannot be excused in a professional gun writer. I’m sorry that this is going to cost him dearly, but he should have been more careful and thought more deeply about the issue. There are a lot of Zumbos out there. Our job is to understand them and educate them rather that simply destroying them when they voice their opinion. As Uncle said, “We are quick to devour our own.”
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The reason Zumbo said it was because being pro-hunting does not necessarily mean being pro-gun.
If I’m not mistaken, Zumbo writes for Shooting Illustrated, an NRA gun rag. I wonder if he’s writen his last piece for them?
Yep, they canned him, too. The only job he’s going to be able to get is writing press releases for the Brady Campaign.
Syd, you have written the most thoughtful and reasoned commentary on this whole tragic affair that I’ve seen yet. In that it exposed the schism and lack of tolerance and understanding between shooters and hunters it is most valuable. You have also outlined the problems, which are several.
Jim Zumbo inadvertantly revealed his (and a very common)insulated position in the shooting world because he had never given thought to the ancillary issues or the 2A struggle. Like many of my friends, his attitude is “Why do you need that?” They need to learn that their hunting rifles and pistols are also in the crosshairs of the disarmament crowd. It is not that we have a military look alike weapon or a “Sniper” rifle (Rifle with glass on it), it’s the fact that we are ARMED AT ALL that they hate and will never quit ot go away. There are lots of things to do, but for unity’s sake we need to;
1. Educate Hunters that the 2nd Amendment in no way mentions hunting as a right or an armed right.
2. Educate hunters that the AR/AK platforms in sporting arms are no different in the field than the Remington M742 in operation and function. The difference is that they are not aesthetically appealing to most hunters and hunters do not think about the HUGE shooting/collecting/competitive shooting communities as part of the 2A community.
3. Together, as organized groups work to protect all of our rights that flow from the second Amendment we could be an overwhelming force in defeating bad legislation (1022 comes to mind).
Now, if everyone will stay focused on protecting the 2nd for ALL our interests, hobbies and activities, as well as recruit youngsters to replace us as we die off, the 2nd will remain
strong, but not without daily battles and eternal vigilance.
Thanks for doing such a great job at your site.
Joe Horn, NRA Life (40 years), SAF
Shooter, collector, Elk hunter.
Hi,
IMHO, arrogance did Mr. Zumbo in; arrogance always leads to a great fall.
ric
Jeremiah 50: 31, 32
Luke 8: 18
I too am a hunter, but also was (and hope to be once again) a competitive shooter. As such, I not only own bolt action rifles, but semi-autos. One is my M-1 Garand (I really like it!) and my Bushmaster V-Match. When I shot NRA High Power, the V-Match was the rifle. This rifle is a tackdriver alright, I had the scores to prove it. I was not a huge fan of the AR-15 platform, but loved the results, the economy of shooting .223 Remington, and the lack of recoil.
Having said all that, I prefer my bolt guns for hunting. I have used my V-Match on woodchucks (with 20 round mags!) but it wasn’t my favorite. I had absoloutley no problems with anyone who uses an AR for hunting, after all (and Zumbo should be smart enough to realize it), accurate shot placement for a quick, humane kill is what an ethical hunter is all about. And a good AR is very accurate.
Most of my hunting is done now days using a handgun. My favorite hunting handguns are my T/C Encore in 30-06 and my Colt Delta Gold Cup or Delta Elite. Yup, that’s right, a 1911 platform in 10mm. A new favorite may be one of my 1911’s with a Kimber 22 lr. conversion unit. Now I’m quite certain that there are those out there that would become quite exercised about using John Browning’s finest creation for taking game, but as I have said, it’s all about accuracy and delivering the shot well. I also like the fact that the old calvary pistol is easy to handle safely in the field.
I also think that the “blue steel and walnut” crowd need to realize this one salient fact - to the anti-gun folks a gun is a gun is a gun. They hate all of them equally. When we wake up to this fact, we will be better off.
Mr. Horn and Mr. Weisbeck make excellent replies, from the “military rifle” side I enjoy collecting, shooting and tinkering with military rifles, old and modern. While I am less interested in sporting rifles I do not, unlike Mr. Zumbo, put them or their owners/shooters down.
As stated here and elsewhere we are all on the gun banner’s list. Today handguns, tomorrow “evil black rifles”, next “military rifles regardless of age and so on until nothing is left except a few old guns collecting dust in museums waiting for the hoplophobes to gather them up too.
In the eyes of the gun banners there are no “elite shooters”, trap and skeet shooters are as “evil” to them as are hunters, self defense advocates, gun collectors with “arsenals” and 15 year old country kids shooting rats at the dump, and to be frank they would even disarm the police if they thought they could.
(I’ve heard police politicians say they would welcome disarming their cops in the street, of course it has been years, if ever, since they last walked a beat or answered a call.)
Regardless of what aspect of the shooting sports we might enjoy we need to all hang together or the anti-gunners will surely hang each of us separately.
JWW