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The Second Gun, Part Two

“The Second Gun” triggered a lot of interesting discussion. I got an ear-full of responses and suggestions on that one, ranging from, “I feel ridiculous wearing two guns,” to “Why not just carry a Glock with a 147-round magazine?” Valid points, all.

Initially this question was directed particularly to those who carry guns which hold only five rounds. Many folks make the decision to carry a revolver despite the availability of higher capacity autos. (For more on this, click here.) How do you deal with the need to reload compact carry revolvers such as the Smith & Wesson Model 642? At the same time, I have never seen an auto that couldn’t break or malfunction, and I believe that the backup gun concept is relevant regardless of what kind of gun one carries.

Further rationale:

  • All guns can fail. The very best guns, be they 1911’s, Glock’s, SIG’s or whatever, can break parts, jam or in other ways become inoperable. If the primary is down, and you don’t have a “plan B” your goose is cooked. If you have the second gun, you have an option.
  • While none of us likes to talk about it, anyone can be disarmed by a skilled operator. A second, hidden gun can permit you to survive a disarm.
  • In the event of an injury to the strong side hand or arm, the backup may be accessed by the weak side hand.
  • Some may simply like the idea of the second gun and adopt it for that reason, irrespective of any threat assessment.
  • If the ammo of the primary is exhausted, the second gun may provide a life-saving solution.

Suggestions for the second gun:

When folks responded, many mentioned the way they carry the second gun. Here are some of the modes of backup carry that were mentioned.

  • A revolver in a belt holster and a mouse gun, such as P32 or an NAA Mini in a pants pocket.
  • A service auto on the belt and a snubnose in the pocket,
  • A revolver on the belt and a second revolver in a jacket pocket. This, of course, works better in cool weather.
  • A revolver or service auto in a shoulder holster and a second on the belt or in a pocket.
  • A service auto on the belt and a second compact auto in a belly band or pocket holster.

Several correspondents reminded me that in their jurisdictions, civilians were limited to one carry gun, such as the State of New Mexico. And then there are those who are completely denied their civil rights in such places as New Jersey and Maryland. Be sure that you are clear about the laws in the area where you live before adopting the carry of a second gun.

A recurring theme is that of threat assessment. “I have carried a 5-round revolver for thirty years and five rounds have always been five more than I needed,” or “I don’t live in Baghdad.” That’s one point of view. Threat assessment is a highly subjective thing, and a person may not feel that their situation requires the complexity and discomfort involved with carrying a second gun.

I have heard people say that they only carry a gun when they think they might need it. While I can understand this line of reasoning, it has flaws. Few civilians volunteer to go places where we think we will be facing a high likelihood of getting into a gunfight. Exceptions would include people who work in situations where the chances of an armed robbery are high. These folks really should be carrying 24/7 and practicing a lot. And generally, carrying all the time is a better practice than carrying only when we think we might need it. (See “Have Gun. Will Carry.”) Recent events in Colorado and Nebraska have illustrated once again that deadly threats may emerge in places where we do not expect them.

A corollary to this might be, “I only carry a backup when I think my primary is going to fail or run out of ammo.” No one can really predict when these situations might arise, so really, we are simply rolling these dice when we make these “might need it” judgments. See also here and here.

Subjective threat assessments are just hunches, feelings and intuition. Unless grounded in some solid information, they have very little predictive capability. Therefore, our carry doctrine needs to be based on something more than the ever-shifting tides of our inner emotions. Yes, we all have to do threat assessments, and we all have to make compromises at times, but the assessments should not be our sole criteria for determining how and what we will carry.

Another issue mentioned frequently is that of work-place conditions and wardrobe. Many folks find it hard to carry even one gun in their work setting with the wardrobe that is required of them. For these folks, I have one word, Kel-Tec. I have spoken to people who find it hard to carry anything more than an NAA Mini Revolver. All I can really do in this regard is to express my sympathy and hope that the employers in question become more enlightened. However, if you can manage one NAA Mini, you can probably pack two, and ten rounds are better than five, and there’s no “speed reload” with those little guys.

One combination I have been working with:

A combination I have been working with is the primary in a shoulder holster, in my case, a Series 1 Kimber Pro Carry Stainless, and the backup, an S&W Model 642, in a belt holster or a jacket pocket. In the bitter cold, when you’re really bundled up, the snubnose in a jacket pocket works particularly well. You can discreetly keep your hand on your gun and look completely unobtrusive. With the backup in a belt holster, you have to position the backup so that it doesn’t conflict with the shoulder holster. The one I use, a Galco Miami Classic, has a double magazine pouch on the right side, and unless the gun is positioned either forward or way back, the butt of the backup hits the pouch. When wearing a baggy hoody, I can carry the revolver forward in appendix position and the shoulder holster without any conflict. (Again, cold weather benefits these modes of carry. In 100 degree summer heat, it might be a 642 in a pocket and an NAA Mini tucked into the top of a tube sock.)

The shoulder holster has a number of characteristics to commend it. The gun is accessible when seated or driving. For a heavy gun, the shoulder holster is often more comfortable to carry than a belt holster. For those who suffer lower back pain, the shoulder holster is often much more tolerable than weight on the belt. Shoulder holsters generally carry two reloads which could be an advantage in certain circumstances. Finally, it is easy to protect the gun from a disarm attempt. Negatives of the shoulder holster include sweeping your non-shooting arm and people behind you with the muzzle of the gun in an emergency, having to leave your coat on at all times, and those with ample girth or short arms may find the draw difficult.

Final Reflections

The second gun requires more of everything: more planning, more holsters, more weight, more concealment. In return, it provides more firepower and more options. The decision to carry the second gun involves a multi-faceted calculus of personal defense theory, threat assessment, employment circumstances, legal environment and physical capabilities. For those who frequently “go in harm’s way,” I highly recommend the second gun.

8 Responses to “The Second Gun, Part Two”

  1. on 31 Dec 2007 at 5:38 pmMostlyGenius

    I think you have given some good thought to carrying a second handgun, and this is a well reasoned article. I do not agree with all of your conclusions, but that does not detract from what you have done here.

    I have linked to this article on my website, and written a post about my thinking on this topic.

  2. on 01 Jan 2008 at 2:38 pmalex.

    Good post. I carry two while working: an airweight j-frame in an ankle holster and a keltec p32 in a front trouser pocket. While seated behind my desk or behind the wheel the j-frame is easily reached. Walking around I can keep a hand on the keltec with no one being the wiser. The two complement each other without being a burden to carry.

    Also, if you’ve never had a gun break while firing you haven’t been shooting much or for very long. As to the keltec, I’m a fan, but with this caveat: once you buy one, shoot it till it breaks (it will). Then take advantage of keltec’s excellent warranty repair service. They will then tune it up to the condition it should have been in the first place. Once you get it back you’re good to go, but don’t trust it till then.

  3. on 05 Jan 2008 at 4:26 pmRobert Hill

    I always carry a Kimber CDP II .45 in a Mitch Rosen Workman tuckable IWB holster. And a NAA .32 Guardian in a Dexantis ankle holster.
    I am fortunate that Oklahoma allows more than one gun and the weapon does not have to be registered to you, or registered at all.
    Both mine are. I completely agree that 2 is better than one. In the words of Massad Ayoob, One is noen, and two is one.
    Excellent article.
    Robert Hill’ Midwest, City Oklahoma

  4. on 05 Jan 2008 at 5:13 pmReinhart

    There is one simple justification for having a backup: You can never be too prepared.

    While there is the concept of overkill, this only applies if you are truly being ridiculous (read: impractical) with your choices.

    Having a secondary pistol in the event that you can’t count on your primary weapon is hardly overkill.

    That’s all I have to say.

  5. on 05 Jan 2008 at 6:55 pmWarlord1958

    Better safe than dead. I carry a Browning HP cocked and locked in a shoulder rig, with 2 extra mags. And my J frame in my pocket holster with two speedloads in my jacket.

  6. on 06 Jan 2008 at 11:19 amAlphaKilo

    I have pistols I’d love to carry with me 24/7 (like my Kimber Ultra CDP), but I have to live in the real world and wardrobe/situation is a big limfac. When I can, I carry a Walther PPK or a Colt Detective Special, both in pocket holsters or sometimes IWB for the PPK. But at work, where packing is strictly forbidden by both Government and employer regs, it may be a Browning Baby .25 or a Walther TPH. Yeah, I know the smug comments that’ll be made by the drawling drooling ‘yew got a mousegun’ crowd…but remember Cooper’s Gunfight Rule #1, and both pieces are better then pointing a finger and going ‘bang.’

  7. on 15 Jan 2008 at 1:39 pmEldorado

    I do not like the idea of carrying without a holster. The holster is an important part of safe carry. A well designed holster will cover the operating controls of the pistol an still allow access to deploy when needed. Many pistols in pockets have resulted in holes in legs.
    I carry a full size Taurus 1911 perfectly concealed in an IWB holster. I tried carrying my Kahr p40 on the left side appendix position to augment the 1911, but I was not comfortable with the muzzle pointing at my femoral artery and femur.
    It would be very sensible to have your second pistol use the same magazine and ammo as your primary. A shoulder holster on the left and IWB on the right . A brace of 1911’s.

  8. on 25 Mar 2008 at 2:56 pmPhil Nichols

    I currently have a M&P 340 as a primary gun. I plan on making it my weak side pocket gun when my Model 649 arrives. That will be carried either appendix or strong side in an IWB holster. I was doing this with my Charter Bulldog and J-Frame and it concealed under an untucked Polo Shirt. I buy the Polo’s with the flat hem which look like they SHOULD be untucked. Conceals well this way. I usually have a Bianchi Speed Strip or two in the strong side pocket.

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