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The Trailhead Shooting

The case of Harold Fish, the retired Arizona teacher who shot Grant Kuenzli and claimed self defense but was ultimately convicted of second degree murder, is one that troubles me. I walk two big dogs in public parks and I have seen how some people get really scared of large dogs, even when the dogs are doing nothing hostile or threatening. I can’t help but wonder if both men overreacted in the situation. It is reported that Fish fired “warning shots” near the dogs to scare them away. This enraged Kuenzli who then approached Fish aggressively, provoking Fish to shoot Kuenzli.

It’s really impossible for me to form a settled opinion on this one because we have only one side of the story and no witnesses. We have to speculate and that is hazardous.

One thing I do know is that “warning shots” are almost always a bad idea. If the situation isn’t bad enough to shoot the target, shots should not be fired. In most cases, firing warning shots is still considered assault with a deadly weapon or even attempted murder even if the gun is not aimed at a person.
It’s pretty clear that Kuenzli was not at all rational, and there was a legitimate basis for Fish’s fear. Rational people don’t generally run into the muzzle of a gun that is already being fired. Kuenzli was also extremely negligent in walking two large dogs off leash that he didn’t know. These were animal shelter dogs, and he could have no way of predicting their behavior.

I guess I’m left where I begin, with a feeling that the situation could have been handled better by both parties. I want to side with Fish, but I think he made mistakes too, possibly in overreacting to the dogs and in firing warning shots. Kuenzli was obviously not in possession of his faculties and negligent in his handling of the dogs. I do think that a charge of second degree murder is excessive and inappropriate in this case.

More on this incident:
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http://tinyurl.com/p8nct

See also: Injustice in Arizona

3 Responses to “The Trailhead Shooting”

  1. on 05 Feb 2008 at 7:01 pmScott Buehler

    You are wrong about the “warning shots” as you put it. There was 1 shot fired, and it was for the attacking dogs benefit, not Grant K. They stopped immediately. What Mr. Fish couldn’t have known was that the decedent was overly reactive to his dog (one of the 3 belonged to him) and had even lost a job because of disagreements about this subject. He couldn’t have known that this guy was a psycopath and had many mental issues. What Mr. Fish did learn, in the brief seconds he had before the attack was that this guy was crazy and would definitely do him harm if given the chance. He did exactly the right thing at exactly the right time. The trial, well the trial was the problem and as the defense attorney states - he will be freed by an appellate court some day due to this terrible injustice. I’ll be glad to have my brother back!

  2. on 06 Feb 2008 at 9:18 amSyd

    I have been observing these kinds of incidents for a lot of years, and it is my observation that warning shots or shots meant to scare almost always make a situation much worse, and usually for the shooter. There have been a few exceptions, but from what I know about this case, this is not one of them. The fact of the matter is that Fish is in prison right now. Something went wrong whether it was his handling of the situation or the legal system. I wonder if he would do things the same way if he was given the chance.

  3. on 19 Nov 2009 at 5:21 pmDon Peterson

    Mr. Fish has been wrongly imprisoned for doing everything correctly. The problem arises when people have been so insulated from the type of people who prey on others that they have never experienced what it is like to think you may be killed by someone acting in a completely irrational way. I also believe the idiotic policies of government institutions like schools have contributed to this lack of understanding of what can happen when the police aren’t standing next to you every minute of the day. Gun’s also have been demonized by the media to the point that anyone who uses one must be a vile person. One juror commented on the type of bullets used by Mr. Fish. These are the type that he should use because not only are they effective, they are much safer for innocent bystanders because they are much less likely to go through one target and kill someone else down the road. That comment to me showed a complete lack of understanding of what self defense is all about and that while it may be disturbing, it is a necessary part of life. Im sure if Mr. Fish would have been killed on that trail, we would have heard all about the “problems” of Kuenzli when he was tried and we would be told to feel sorry for him because of all his psychiatric problems. As far as I am concerned, Kuenzli got what he had been looking for for a long time and Mr. Fish has had his life ruined over it for nothing.

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